When around 15 the Muslim weaver Kabir sang his songs in Banaras, nobody could imagine that at the end of the twentieth century he would be the most frequently quoted bhakti saint in north India. Five hundred years after Kabir was born in Banaras and after at least 8 years of scholarship, do we have any certainty that the songs attributed to him and published in critical and uncritical editions and translations, are by Kabir? I doubt it more and more. Between Kabir and our computer age lie 15 years of oral transmission (which never stopped) and nearly 4 years of scribal transmission. We have no oral recordings of Kabir scolding his audiences and I take it for granted that he did not write down his compositions. What we have are manuscripts in which his popular repertoire was written down, first by travelling singers, and later, in a more respectful and professional way, by devoted scribes. But what do we have of Kabir in those repertoires? I argue that with certainty we can only say that the version of Kabir’s songs found in the seventeenth century manuscripts is the version commonly used and sung by singers then. Among the pad-s in the Va]ni of Kabir we can earmark those that may have been popular in the repertoires around 155, that is two generations after the death of Kabir and one generation before the first manuscripts still preserved now were written. The norm is ‘occurrence’ in Punjab and/or Rajasthan. When everything is said and done, one question remains: How could Kabir become so charismatic that many devotees, possibly during his lifetime and definitely after his death, were happy to insert his name as bha]nita in their own compositions and let those songs circulate with his name, not their own? What was his genius that eventually was changed into a social consciousness strongly influencing later generations? About the Author Winand M. Callewaert (1943), is a Emeritus Professor of Sanskrit at the KU Leuven, Belgium. He has been studying and working in India since 1965, holding degrees in Hindi, Sanskrit and Philosophy from Ranchi, Pune, Banaras and Leuven. Besides numerous research articles he has published 17 books in English or Hindi and 12 in Dutch. Swapna Sharma is a Senior Hindi preceptor at Yale University. She was previously a lecturer at University of Leipzig in 27. She received her PhD from Agra University, with her thesis on ‘Gadhadhar Bhatta’. Dieter Taillieu has graduated from Leuven in Indian and Iranian studies and is now doing research about pre-Islamic Iran.